- Finding the person who ordered the firing, the final phase of cleaning up
5.18 - 與 Gwangju did a good job... Shouldn't we forget
and blame again - a one-point constitutional amendment? 尹 Promise, if decided, can
be implemented - Kim Nam-guk refrains from doing so... The Democrats should
try to solve the problem instead of fighting it - why don't they dislodge it and prevent it from being investigated? Talking stupid - Calling Kim Nam-guk and advising him "please don't make excuses" - I accepted it myself and voluntarily withdrew after apologizing
to the public

- I was already guillotined ... Special Committee on Ethics, Appropriate Discipline - Kim
Nam-guk predicted to run for office next year? "I'm Not a Puncher"


■ Broadcast: SBS Kim Tae-hyun's Political Show (FM 103.5 MHz 7:00 ~ 9:00) ■ Date: May 18, 2023 (Thu)
■ Host: Kim Tae-hyun
Lawyer
■ Appearance: Park Ji-won, former director

of the National Intelligence Service ▷ Kim Tae-hyun : In the opposition, I think we can have a deeper conversation with him. In addition, I am connected by phone to Park Ji-won, the former director of the National Intelligence Service (NIS), who is an adviser to the Democratic Party. Hello, Director.

▶Jiwon Park: Hello.

Kim Taehyun : Are you in Gwangju right now?

▶Jiwon Park: I came up to Seoul last night.

Kim Taehyun : Oh, did you attend yesterday's eve?

▶Park Ji-won: I couldn't attend the eve of the festival.

Kim Taehyun : Oh, do you?

▶Park Jiwon: Yes. Kim Taehyun : Okay.

May 18 The work of the Fact-Finding Commission ended this year. I summarized the last-minute achievements in the National Report yesterday. A lot of new stuff has come out. Even the number of shots was specific in numbers. In your eyes, what is the most meaningful thing in your eyes?

▶Park Ji-won: Today, on the occasion of the 43rd anniversary of May 18, I would like to say that our people should once again keep the spirit of May 18 and its history for a long time. Song Sun-tae 5.18 The fact-finding committee did a lot of work under difficult conditions. Even when I was director of the National Intelligence Service, I provided all the data that the NIS could find, and since the identities of the missing persons, such as those who ordered the firing and those who were raped, have not yet been confirmed, I hope that these things will be done in the Yoon Suk-yeol government because President Yoon Suk-yeol has also made promises.

Kim Tae-hyun : Mr. Chairman, I understand that next year, as far as I know, there will be an official report at the national level for the first time. Will you be able to find the person responsible for the final order to fire? So, can we just specify it in the official report of the country?

▶Jiwon Park: I think I can find it. Because, first of all, you can expect a declaration of conscience, but the work of the fact-finding committee was very close. That's why it's inappropriate for me to talk about specifics. We have to figure it out, and that's going to be the kind of thing that will sort out the final 5.18, I think so.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. For the second consecutive year, lawmakers from the ruling party, the People's Power, said that all members of the National Assembly will attend the May 18 commemoration ceremony, and they also organized a special KTX train. How do you view this move by the Conservative Party?

▶Jiwon : You did a very good job. And we can only hope that President Yoon Suk-yeol will attend the May 18 commemoration ceremony today. I don't know if that's the case yet.

Kim Taehyun : It hasn't been officially announced.

▶Park Ji-won: It hasn't been officially announced, but I hope President Yoon Suk-yeol will attend as well. Of course, it is desirable that all political circles are heading to Gwangju today. However, I also say that we must not forget and condemn from tomorrow and do not repeat these things.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, proposed a one-point constitutional amendment that would put the spirit of May 18 into the preamble of the Constitution, how do you view this? Can this be done, Director?

▶Park Ji-won: Since President Yoon Suk-yeol has also made a promise, I think it is possible depending on President Yoon Suk-yeol's decision to include the spirit of May 18 in the preamble of the Constitution through a one-point constitutional amendment proposed by Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the MDP. You have to do it because you said it.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. So you're more likely than ever to get a deal, right?

▶Jiwon Park: I see it that way.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. Kim Tae-hyun's political show, which is a balanced current affairs show, interviews former NIS chief Park Ji-won on the phone.

▶Park Ji-won: One more thing, President Yoon Suk-yeol had a very positive view of May 18 more than any other president in history, more than any president in the conservative bloc, and he said it and made promises. That's why I add that it's possible to put it into practice.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. Let me ask you a question about the problems within the party.

▶Jiwon : Why do you keep asking me about that complexity?

Kim Taehyun : I guess you expected what kind of questions you would ask. It's a little difficult, isn't it?

▶Jiwon Park: No, I'm not in trouble. If you have any questions, do it.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. Rep. Kim Nam-guk's coin controversy. This morning, in the political section of the Dong-A Ilbo, there was an article in which Rep. Bi Myeong-gye said, "I crossed the river of my country and fell into the sea of the southern country." Do you agree?

▶Jiwon Park: Well, I don't know. I don't know where the screams of the MDP are, but I hope that Congressman Kim Nam-guk will refrain from doing so because he himself voluntarily withdrew from the party and apologized to the people, but if our MDP also says that the coin incident came about because of the money bag, we will refrain from doing so, repent, and investigate the cause.I'm going to tell the people. In addition, we legislate weak laws, overhaul laws, and conduct full investigations. Then, I think it's better to go forward-looking so that we can deal with the issue of including virtual currency in the property disclosure, and it's even worse to fight by screaming at your relatives when you're in such a difficult situation right now.

Kim Taehyun : So apart from the quarrel between certain sects, the pro-name screaming world.

▶Park Ji-won: So, the daughters of the dogs are also attacking former Supreme Council member Lee Dong-hak, who criticized Rep. Kim Nam-guk, with 8 enemies or 7 enemies. This is also bad. Somehow, the MDP and Congressman Kim Nam-guk, even if they have a thousand mouths, have wronged the people. That's why I apologize and show self-restraint, and I repeat, I think that the people will still reflect and move forward in three directions: legislation, property declaration, and full investigation. For this reason, some people like Daegu Mayor Hong Joon-pyo point out that the MDP is still defecting from the party and reflecting, but the power of the people is not doing that. But right now, the gust is a coin blast. That's why the Democratic Party is screaming like that, and if they want to cross the river of the motherland, why do they want to enter the river of the South? We've got to work it out. That's politics.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. I remember Congressman Kim Nam-guk said the other day that he called the director at the beginning of this incident as soon as the suspicions about this incident surfaced.

▶Jiwon Park: I called him.

Kim Taehyun : Oh, did the director call?

▶Park Ji-won: Don't let me call you and say it's legal or illegal. Of course, cryptocurrencies are legal in the United States. It's illegal in China. Our country is lawless, there are still no laws. That's why, according to legal logic, lawyers must only pick guilt or innocence. That's why President Yoon Suk-yeol is also finding politics difficult. The question is how the people will accept it, and this is the essence of politics. Former President Kim Tae-chung also said that it is not my thoughts that are important, but the people's thoughts. That's why I apologize to the public for this matter, and please don't make excuses or explanations. If the Party conducts an investigation, we will cooperate, and if the prosecution conducts an investigation, we will cooperate, and we should adopt that attitude. No, did you do the coin business, did Minister Han Dong-hoon, or did the prosecution do it? When I asked him why he kept talking about it, he agreed, apologized to the people, and went the way of voluntarily withdrawing from the party.

Kim Taehyun : So have you spoken to us since then? Before and after the recent defection.

▶Jiwon Park: Yes, I did. I've done it once or twice, especially when I've been on a certain show and I've been explaining it again.

Kim Taehyun : Are you talking about what you did on YouTube?

▶Park Ji-won: Yes, I talked about it on Kim Eo-joon's News Factory. And then I made an appearance. So don't call me Kim Nam Kook. If you keep explaining it, you will bite your tail again. And after the show, I called him and told him not to do it, and he listened to my show.

Kim Tae-hyun: Yes. Park Ji-won: So, in any case, the prosecutor's office is now cooperating with the prosecutor's office in the investigation because the investigation has been compulsory, and if it is now, why did some members of the Democratic Party leave the party, how did they evade the investigation, that sounds silly.



Kim Taehyun : Oh, is that so?

▶Jiwon Park: Right. When it comes to political affairs, if you decide to take a position, you do so at that moment. So, when we asked why Minister Lee Sang-min didn't do that in the case of the 159 people tragedy in Itaewon, the president said that he would not repair his resignation, so the MDP said that. If the minister says he will stay, that's it. They talk about that, and Congressman Kim Nam-guk voluntarily resigned from the party, so why are they talking about it? The problem now is, I repeat, if you file a complaint with the Ethics Committee, you are doing it because you are an active member of the National Assembly. And the prosecution, of course, said that Minister Han Dong-hoon spoke well. He did the coin, but I did it, why do you blame me? That's right.

Kim Tae-hyun : Did you consult with Chairman Park Ji-won about whether or not Representative Kim Nam-guk left the party?

▶Park Jiwon: I'm not going to talk about that specifically because I made my own decision.

Kim Taehyun : I see what you mean. Do you think the defection is a good thing?

▶Jiwon Park: I think I did a good job. Already, Congressman Kim Nam-guk has been put on the political guillotine. That's why Daegu Mayor Hong Joon-pyo and the Democratic Party still leave the party when problems come up, and they take these measures, but look at the power of the people. The chief political officer of the Blue House should speak well to the incumbent Supreme Council member, so that he can be nominated for the Gangnam Party. Even for these crimes, by the same token, President Park Geun-hye spent two years in prison, but they cut off the tail of a three-month suspension of party membership. That's what he does. Still, the Democrats are responsible. You can't blame a dog with shit on it. But the Democratic Party should not attack the power of the people, but should do stronger reform and innovation because they got it wrong, and I think so.

Kim Tae-hyun: Yesterday, the MDP filed a complaint, and a disciplinary bill against Rep. Kim Nam-guk has been listed on the National Assembly Ethics Committee. To what extent do you expect this disciplinary commission to come out?

▶Park Ji-won: Well, it's not something that the National Assembly Ethics Commission has ever done before. I've been a member of Parliament for a few years. That's why this time the National Assembly is distrusted by the people. The ethics committee is discredited for not being able to do that. Therefore, I believe that the proper discipline given by conducting accurate deliberations is the way for the National Assembly and the National Assembly Ethics Committee to find authority.

Kim Tae-hyun : On the side of the people's power, you talked about expulsion, but what is your position on this?

▶Park Ji-won: You can talk about it from the party side, but the authority belongs to the Ethics Committee. So we've got to leave it to the ethics committee I think it's bad to sue and say what to do, what to do.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. Mr. Chairman, I have one minute left, and I think this will be the last question. Congressman Kim, what do you think will happen to your political life in the future? Do you think you will be able to run in next year's general election?

▶Jiwon Park: That will be the most important outcome of the prosecution's investigation. And before that, we hope that President Yoon Suk-yeol will be the kind of G7 visit to Japan that absolutely opposes and stops the release of nuclear wastewater from Fukushima.

Kim Taehyun : Okay.

▶Jiwon Park: Why are you smiling? The decision of Rep. Kim Nam-guk to run in next year's general election depends entirely on the outcome of the prosecutor's investigation and the disposition of the Ethics Commission, but I can't say that I'm not a punching teacher and that I'm not running for office.

Kim Taehyun : Okay. We're going to wrap it up here today. Until now, it was former NIS Director Park Ji-won, an adviser to the Democratic Party. I appreciate it.

▶Jiwon Park: Thank you.

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