[HIGHLIGHTS] "We need to be more effective on fraud from above and fraud from below," says Gabriel Attal.

The Minister of Public Accounts, Gabriel Attal, was the guest of Europe 1 this Friday. At the microphone of Dimitri Pavlenko, the minister explained that he wanted to better fight against social and tax fraud.

"We need to be more effective on fraud from above and fraud from below," he said. "For example, VAT fraud according to a fairly thorough study by INSEE, is estimated at around 20 billion euros per year," explains Attal to Europe 1, Gabriel.